Another tie to the Ziccardi letter? If you read our blog “The Ziccardi Letter” you will see that the writer speaks of a strange man that would take the girls from the motel for food and bubble gum. Not just any food. He was taking them for Chinese food.
Amy’s lunch menu on Oct 27th 1989 was reported to be corn dogs and pizza. The reports of Amy’s stomach contents were soy based proteins, possibly chicken or Chinese food and cheese. Many in our group feel that Amy’s abductor likely fed her right around the time he let Amy call Margaret: which was around 3:30pm. This tells us a few different things. Amy was still fairly comfortable but the abductor was not. We have already established in previous blogs that the phone call was probably encouraged by the abductor because he knew that Margaret would be expecting her daily ” I’m Home ” phone call around that time. The abductor is thinking strategically here as he knows if that call is not made he will activate law enforcement on a child abduction report and may encounter law enforcement en route to where he is going with her. The abductor is likely lying to Amy the entire time in that car ride as to where they are headed. Blaze, Kai and Avery discussed this last night. Here is the transcript of that discussion
PART ONE
Blaze: Ok guys, here’s what we got. BVPD reports witnesses see Amy walk into the direction of the parking lot with her abductor. No one sees Amy get into a vehicle. They do not disclose direction in that parking lot. The situation is calm and not obvious of any issues. Amy had waited for the abductor for a considerable amount of time
Kai: So the witnesses watched her long enough to see all that but didn’t continue to follow her with their eyes?
Blaze: There was no real reason for concern as everything seemed ok. They had no real reason to watch her like a hawk. My concern with this whole Bay shopping center story is this: Amy allegedly told two girls she was walking with on wolfe rd towards the shopping center that she was meeting someone. That’s pretty vague in the kid world. It didn’t inspire a “who are you meeting question”? Kids are naturally curious. Did those 2 girls who broke away from her on her walk to the shopping center go home or did they end up at the shopping center too?
Avery: Everything we have gathered is that those 2 girls she was walking with did not go to the shopping center.
Blaze: If they had I’m sure they would have been at least curious who she was meeting? no?
Kai: As Blaze has stated before we don’t know if Amy was telling her friends the truth about any of it. I think we need to stay open as to what the abductor may have said to her on the phone.
Blaze: Yeah but why she was going to meet him is a moot point. She voluntarily went. We may never know what was really said. That is the reality of it
Avery: He knows her. She knows his face. No doubt in my mind
Kai: I have to say that I’m starting to really see that as realistic
Blaze: I cannot help but think Margaret introduced these two at some point. I’m also going to go out on a limb here. Lets say hypothetically that Amy knows a little bit about Margaret’s personal life. It is no secret that there is a real possibility that Margaret was going behind Mark’s back with another man. I mean, it fits the profile of her out of the home behavior. The booze, the dancing, the bar scene.
Avery: yes. and?
Blaze: I’m wondering if Amy knew about him. Here’s why. Ruth told Renner supposedly that Amy was acting like something was bothering her the week prior to her abduction. Margaret is dropping Amy off at Holly Hill and throwing Amy’s boots out the window at Amy because they were fighting. Margaret took Amy everywhere with her according to those that knew her. Why all of a sudden turbulence? Why a week before abduction? Was Amy caught in the middle of something?
Kai: Whoa!
Blaze: When I look at Margaret’s face after the abduction, I see something besides worry. The way she phrases her words. Margaret says ” She must come back, she just has to come back” As much as this would anger some people. I see guilt. Lots of guilt. I see that phrase with a dual meaning. One that states she must come back, not only because she misses Amy but because she might be suspecting something she did caused this. Yes? No? Maybe?
a minute of silence
Avery: You have always said the key is Margaret. Since day one
Blaze: well, if you hang around toilets you are going get yourself into some shit.
Kai: That is so true. She wasn’t meeting great guys out at clubs or bars I’m sure. Makes me wonder if she played around with drugs at all
Avery: My guess is weed. Fits situation. booze, bars, she being a heavy cigarette smoker. Not trying to stereotype but there is some truth in it.
Blaze: Of course there is. Anyway, let’s get back to the parking lot and base everything now on the 2 facts we know occurred. 1) The phone call to Margaret and 2) we know she’s with the abductor
Kai: We don’t know where they walked to though?
Avery: No. No one noticed
Avery: a good amount of time passes with Amy apparently calm with her abductor. This would tell me that getting into the car and driving away happened without incident. She seems ok but a little odd to Margaret on their 3:30 phone call.
Blaze: But we have no idea of the scenario. It could’ve been forced. He could’ve had a weapon pulled on her at that point.We just don’t know. Lets keep an open mind on that. It seems to me though that in all likelihood Amy is still unaware there is a problem at 3:30.
Kai: So he probably took her for food right after Amy was with him to call her and build rapport?
Blaze: I’ve studied a lot on Amy’s personality. I think she knew exactly who the abductor was. No need to build rapport. I don’t believe she goes with a stranger. It’s just not her. After that 3:30 phone call though when she’s back in his vehicle, all bets might have been off.
Avery: I’m thinking he keeps her calm for a good while. Maybe he slipped something in her food or drink when he fed her? Anything on the toxicology report?
Kai: I don’t think there is a toxicology report is there?
Blaze: It would have been in her bloodstream and that blood has been processed to the moon and back. Maybe another reason to drain her blood though. At least in the killer’s mind
Avery: This shit is getting crazy. Now my mind is saying what if the abductor is not the killer at all!? F**k what if he is a delivery service to the Ashland gang? What if he also dumped the body?
Blaze: yep. now with that one move you’ve eliminated your Bay Village Ashland County link so law enforcement would have a hard time connecting the dots.. This is why I keep saying don’t discount Ted Lamborgine just yet. This is typical child abduction pedophile shit here guys. These people didn’t come up with this plan in a day. This could be a well oiled machine
Kai: Oh My God. The O.C.C guy? I think my mind just went poof. Holy shit!
Avery: he turned down a plea bargain because he refused to talk about Amy’s case.
Blaze: That’s right. Lamborgine did. That’s a fact. Not hear say.
PART TWO
Avery: Lamborgine is currently in prison right? Maybe one of us should visit and try to talk with him.
Blaze: I’m for that. Kai?
Kai: absolutely
Avery: O.C.C was the southern Michigan pedo ring right?
Kai: Yeah
Blaze: Let’s try to stay focused locally for now. Yes Ted was in Parma but let’s try to stay focused on the subject at hand before we get too out stretched with speculation
Avery: In my notes I have the back of the bowling alley as a possible abduction location and a possible van?
Blaze: Cruze had brought up that Amy could have been taken that way. There is a cut away in the back of the bowling alley
Kai: What about her being seen in the parking lot though?
Blaze: We have to maintain an open mind. I cannot stress that enough. We do not know what is truth at this point. We can assume BVPD has an accurate report according to what they were told during interviews. Key words there are” what they were told ”
Blaze: Remember me talking disguise in the meeting about the composite drawings?
Avery: yes, the glasses
Kai: I read the blog on it
Blaze: ok good. so question then? who wears a jacket when it is 70 degrees in the sun in the almost warmest part of the day?
Avery: excellent point. The jacket is part of the disguise then. Can we assume this would be something the abductor doesn’t normally wear?
Blaze: I don’t want to assume anything about anyone in this case anymore. I want base things on the known facts so we don’t get off on a wild goose chase. Like ” Oh i knew this guy that wore tan jackets all year-long”
Avery: Agree, that’s why this case has gone on so long. I think initially the Bay police investigated everything told to them. They’d have to really. They were doing their jobs
Kai: that’s why so many possible suspects
Avery: yes
Blaze: Kai, google the bay village shopping center for photos. Try to see if you can get a list of tenants in that whole shopping center for 1989. You probably won’t get a list but try to find a pic with good enough resolution to make out every store and restaurant that was there
Kai: ok, the wifi in here is slow though. bare with me
Avery: are you thinking he would have taken her to eat right there?
Blaze: totally possible based on how comfortable the abductor is. I mean, why put yourself in public again in another place if you have possibly already been seen at the Bay shopping center? That would show a travel direction plan if spotted in two locations. These guys aren’t dumb. Just cowards
Avery: You keep saying things plural. You really are thinking multiple perps here?
Blaze: I’m thinking all ways. You have to. We don’t have video. We don’t have anything but those eyewitness reports.
Kai: ok so im looking at the shopping center and i see baskin robbins on the corner. Its fuzzy though. a bowling alley and what looks like a barber shop. looks like maybe a hardware store on the other side. is that a grocery store here by the bowling alley?
Avery: It looks like it could be. A smaller one. Heinens or an IGA sized store
Blaze: Cruze told me there was a grocery behind the bowling alley. The one wall creates the recess in the back. There on the right behind the bowling alley.
Avery: Looks like a prime place to park the getaway vehicle if you asked me. But there is no chance of a snatch and go situation here right?
Blaze: I don’t think so, the 3:30 phone call indicates she went voluntarily. Again though. We just don’t know what Amy’s environment is at 3:30. Does she have a weapon in her face? Is it all cool? we just don’t know. Nobody does but the abductor
Kai: What if the perp put the vehicle back there in that crevice? was there a public exit or entrance from the bowling alley leading to that area?
Avery: I’m not sure but I have never personally seen a bowling alley with both the front and back and back open to the public. It’s always just alleys wall to wall with an employee door on usually the left and right outermost back point.
Blaze: what Kai said is interesting though. Ironically that is exactly what Cruze has been saying all along. She was taken behind the bowling alley. Even if he couldn’t go through the bowling alley he could potentially walk around the building with Amy to the vehicle there. But let’ s not forget even if this is the case. Amy is very bright. She didn’t even feel comfortable talking back to a stranger trying to talk to her. I’ve heard Mark say that many times. There is just no way Amy doesn’t know this man. No way!
Avery: he knows her. she knows him. only thing that makes sense
Kai: I agree. Now what?
Blaze: Get us the tenant list if you can. keep looking. I will be busy doing interviews tomorrow. So. We all agree Amy flat-out knows her abductor?
Kai: yeah
Avery: Yep. No doubt in my mind. 100%
Blaze: Thanks guys. good work. Meet again in a few days? I want Cruze in on the next meeting
